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What TV SHOWS are you watching?
02 Nov 2017 00:49 #256837
by GorillaGrody
I'm not trying to troll you or back you into a corner you can't get out of.
If you believe that there is any purpose to holding an opinion such as "western culture is the best" (like, better at what? Holding a Hindi funeral? Making long bottomed boats? What? Context is everything...) which literally pays no one's bills, helps no one, and contributes nothing to actual cultural understanding, you have to think critically about why you hold a belief like that and who gave you that belief, because it's not one that derives naturally from an immersion in culture. It is a robotic bit of thoroughly modern propaganda whose purpose is to destroy culture, and probably human bodies along with it.
Okay. That said, you haven't given any explicit acknowledgement that you do hold that opinion, and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, because we've met each other on a website we both like. Can I give you the benefit of the doubt? Please say yes.
Replied by GorillaGrody on topic What TV SHOWS are you watching?
Mr. White wrote:
GorillaGrody wrote: No, I didn't read you as an apologist. We're okay, I think. Unless, of course, you don't think there's a relative value to different cultures, or a value to knowing how more than one of them operates at a level for which "best" isn't really meaningful.
To be honest...I'm not really sure how to respond to this. There's a lot of fight in your posts. I just clarified some statements, not sure why there's an attempt to paint me as an online enemy to tilt at.
I'm not trying to troll you or back you into a corner you can't get out of.
If you believe that there is any purpose to holding an opinion such as "western culture is the best" (like, better at what? Holding a Hindi funeral? Making long bottomed boats? What? Context is everything...) which literally pays no one's bills, helps no one, and contributes nothing to actual cultural understanding, you have to think critically about why you hold a belief like that and who gave you that belief, because it's not one that derives naturally from an immersion in culture. It is a robotic bit of thoroughly modern propaganda whose purpose is to destroy culture, and probably human bodies along with it.
Okay. That said, you haven't given any explicit acknowledgement that you do hold that opinion, and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, because we've met each other on a website we both like. Can I give you the benefit of the doubt? Please say yes.
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02 Nov 2017 01:25 - 02 Nov 2017 01:29 #256838
by Mr. White
Good grief...
First, I mistakenly got involved simply by pointing out the fact that the Proud Boys do have views based on cultural bias not racial, so there is some difference between them and Nazis. Even to that point, I don't think they mean to eradicate other cultures just promote their own, but I'm not certain. So, even if both are on the fringes of the right, there are nuanced differences. Whether knowing that means anything do you I can't say. They weren't in Charlottesville either, but why let facts get in the way of a good takedown?
It should also be noted I agreed multiple times with your points when valid.
Second, I've never said that I believe the west is the best, but a good paragraph and a half across two posts are spent admonishing me as if I did...in a fun condescending tone to boot! I know the witch hunt is on in 2017, but you've targeted probably the most moderate poster here. The torch was lit on your Stranger Thing post, so I should have been more leary than to respond. Oh well.
For what it's worth, I think there are some fantastic things about the west...some terrible things too. As with any culture. I like that we're trying to trend more and more towards equality. I don't think that it is _the best_, but I do like the opportunities my son and daughter have living in a western society.
I'm sure there's some kindle in there for your fire, but I'm starting to care less...
Replied by Mr. White on topic What TV SHOWS are you watching?
GorillaGrody wrote:
Mr. White wrote:
GorillaGrody wrote: No, I didn't read you as an apologist. We're okay, I think. Unless, of course, you don't think there's a relative value to different cultures, or a value to knowing how more than one of them operates at a level for which "best" isn't really meaningful.
To be honest...I'm not really sure how to respond to this. There's a lot of fight in your posts. I just clarified some statements, not sure why there's an attempt to paint me as an online enemy to tilt at.
I'm not trying to troll you or back you into a corner you can't get out of.
If you believe that there is any purpose to holding an opinion such as "western culture is the best" (like, better at what? Holding a Hindi funeral? Making long bottomed boats? What? Context is everything...) which literally pays no one's bills, helps no one, and contributes nothing to actual cultural understanding, you have to think critically about why you hold a belief like that and who gave you that belief, because it's not one that derives naturally from an immersion in culture. It is a robotic bit of thoroughly modern propaganda whose purpose is to destroy culture, and probably human bodies along with it.
Okay. That said, you haven't given any explicit acknowledgement that you do hold that opinion, and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt, because we've met each other on a website we both like. Can I give you the benefit of the doubt? Please say yes.
Good grief...
First, I mistakenly got involved simply by pointing out the fact that the Proud Boys do have views based on cultural bias not racial, so there is some difference between them and Nazis. Even to that point, I don't think they mean to eradicate other cultures just promote their own, but I'm not certain. So, even if both are on the fringes of the right, there are nuanced differences. Whether knowing that means anything do you I can't say. They weren't in Charlottesville either, but why let facts get in the way of a good takedown?
It should also be noted I agreed multiple times with your points when valid.
Second, I've never said that I believe the west is the best, but a good paragraph and a half across two posts are spent admonishing me as if I did...in a fun condescending tone to boot! I know the witch hunt is on in 2017, but you've targeted probably the most moderate poster here. The torch was lit on your Stranger Thing post, so I should have been more leary than to respond. Oh well.
For what it's worth, I think there are some fantastic things about the west...some terrible things too. As with any culture. I like that we're trying to trend more and more towards equality. I don't think that it is _the best_, but I do like the opportunities my son and daughter have living in a western society.
I'm sure there's some kindle in there for your fire, but I'm starting to care less...
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