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Rogue One (with SPOILERS)
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1. Tarkin blasts the data storage site because KRENNIK is there. And Krennick is trying to snatch control of the Death Star from Tarkin (or vice versa). So he possibly stops the rebels and kills a rival in one stroke.
2. The dish control tower is way out on a ledge so you can see AROUND the dish in order to aim it. Yeah, that's it
3. The data storage is manually operated to prevent it from being hacked. Multiple failsafes to prevent unauthorized entry (all of which failed, of course).
4. The visual disctionary probably explains it, but I imagine Baze has that backpack in order to power or cool his machine gun blaster. No one else has a fast repeating blaster like that.
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Black Barney wrote: How can you think Kylo Ren's tantrum Saber scene (done for comedic effect and some sort of weird statement that the Dark side breeds for undisciplined children) is better than Vader at the height of his ability totally cleaning house and ruining the lives of those troopers? Also, it's pretty damn scary.
Jake is right, the tantrum solidifies the fact that Ren is a very weak villian and is no Vader.
I don't think he's better than Vader, but he doesn't have to be. I actually liked the tantrum scene because before that scene I was worried that this is going to be "another Vader". With that scene, the movie established that Kylo is a very different character and would have his own development arc. For all the people whining that TFA is A New Hope 2.0, it's surprising how people want Kylo to have the same arc/character/presence/power level as Vader.
The monk died in his friend's arms for crying out loud! If anyone doesn't think this is a war movie, they are out of their mind.
Theoden died in Eowyn arms. It's as much as a war movie as The Return of the King was...
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Do you really not understand why people draw parallels between Ren and Vader. Vader is the villian of all three preceeding Star Wars episodes. Ren is the villian of Force Awakens so....
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jason10mm wrote: 4. The visual disctionary probably explains it, but I imagine Baze has that backpack in order to power or cool his machine gun blaster. No one else has a fast repeating blaster like that.
It is to cool it per the visual dictionary.
l.yimg.com/dh/ap/default/161216/Guardian-Weapons-Exclusive.pdf
Also, Chirrut built his bow to complete his Guardian training.
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Black Barney wrote: How can you think Kylo Ren's tantrum Saber scene (done for comedic effect and some sort of weird statement that the Dark side breeds for undisciplined children) is better than Vader at the height of his ability totally cleaning house and ruining the lives of those troopers? Also, it's pretty damn scary.
Jake is right, the tantrum solidifies the fact that Ren is a very weak villian and is no Vader.
Hmm, I sense the faint noise of something, almost like the non-sensical whisperings of the Dead-to-Me.
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Black Barney wrote: How can you think Kylo Ren's tantrum Saber scene (done for comedic effect and some sort of weird statement that the Dark side breeds for undisciplined children) is better than Vader at the height of his ability totally cleaning house and ruining the lives of those troopers? Also, it's pretty damn scary.
Jake is right, the tantrum solidifies the fact that Ren is a very weak villian and is no Vader.
Kylo's tantrum is more original and unexpected and plays for anger and pissiness (and later for a sharp bit of comedy), revealing his character. Vader cutting through everyone is fun, but in that moment, did you really not expect that to happen, or that he was capable of that? It's a powerful visceral moment, but also a little bit ham-fisted... of course the guy was going to slip the file through at the last second.
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Black Barney wrote: Do you really not understand why people draw parallels between Ren and Vader. Vader is the villian of all three preceeding Star Wars episodes. Ren is the villian of Force Awakens so....
No, the question wasn't that. The question was why is the people who hates TFA being ANH clone, can't accept that Ren is just a different kind of villain?
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"Lightsaber tantrum" was a genially original scene, was one of the few I did not see coming, and it fit well with the character. Although, I have to say, Ren is behaving very similarly to "I-am-old-enough-to-be-on-the-Jedi-council" Anakin. Of course, Adam Driver is a way more accomplished actor and his tantrums are better written in.
On the other hand, the "airlock massacre" - while very powerful - I suspect was born as a 100% fan service. It is a happy accident it turned out to be THAT good and emotional. Simply because if that was planned, some other parts of the movie could have been better, too.
Also, although I liked RO better, the truth is that it follows in the steps of TFA big time. It has similar sensibilities aesthetically, and I imagine borrows many assets. It is kind of the same pattern as Disney Marvel movies.
Also, I don't think it is the right time to bash TFA in favor of RO... just because you get yourself a shiny new toy for Christmas, don't discard your present from the last year. It makes all the toys feel sad and insecure about their future.
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He's also saying that Darth Vader looks "rustier" in NH than in RO.
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I was really hoping they would mention some offscreen character named "Manny Bothenz" who tragically dies in the assault. Call me Kathleen Kennedy! I have ideas!dysjunct wrote: I was really hoping for an appearance by Porkins.
Also, NO Bothan spies died! Total letdown. I was expecting complete Bothan carnage.
Over it was okay. Agree with the criticisms of the shaky plot and the flat characterizations. Things felt rushed, going from one set piece to another without giving the story or the characters time to breathe.
The CGI of Tarkin and Leia didn't bother me.
The last third was really good. At first I was a bit shocked when everyone started dying, but of course that's the only way you can do it. You can't introduce all these heroes and then have them conspicuously absent then rest of the movies.
Anyway, solid 7.
It was pretty good! I like the whole THE BATTLE FOR ALGIERS vibe and I think the Death Star as city destroyer is way cooler (and honestly, far more effective) than as planet destroyer.
I like not knowing who's going to make it.
I like that TARS was reborn as K-2SO. Sassy droid is best droid.
....CGI humans--recognizable actors, it's not to be done. It was bad here--the lighting is wrong. Everyone looks too shiny. Light actually penetrates into skin, bounces around and comes back out. It's hard to model this in CGI in an inexpensive way, and it makes people look fake. I was likely not helped by having seen De-Specialized ANH just a few months ago, so Peter Cushing was fresh in my mind. I was used to artificial Carrie Fisher though, having seen her in TFA (SHOTS FIRED AT A HEART ATTACK VICTIM YA'LL, I MUST BE DARK SIDE)
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