The Last Jedi - Full Spoilers

Well, I kind of thought the "low speed chase" plotline was pretty weak too...until I thought about it like a Galactica thing and then I sort of went with it. It's about the Resistance getting BEATEN, at the end of their rope, and barely escaping to inspire others to rise up.

Failure is such a key theme in the entire film...I don't know if anyone actually succeeds at anything they are doing, apart from Holdo.

I dunno, I’d say Kylo Ren pulls off a bit of a coup

Michael Barnes wrote: One thing I found really intriguing the second time is how much -spiritual jeopardy- Rey is in.

This has been in TFA, in a much subtler way. When she was battling Kylo Ren, she was *this* close to killing him in rage. Only the splitting earth stopped her.

But that was really just a variation of Luke hesitating to kill Vader. It’s nothing as seductive and beguiling as Kylo Ren appealing to her and quite frankly making a good case for her to sell her soul. The temptation he offers is something much more complex than giving in to anger.

Hmm. Is Kylo Ren a truly Satanic figure? He has the fall from grace...discuss.

You know it is really weird but I think his shirtless scene is the ONLY time in SW we have ever seen a bare chest...apart from Maul in Clone Wars. Maybe that’s why it is so awkward-feeling.

One little thing I thought was interesting was that his mask actually looked more like Vader’s after he smashed it.

Im not discussing any of that

Did u like the lightsaber fight

The sticks with the lights that go whoosh? Yeah those were cool.

Michael Barnes wrote: But that was really just a variation of Luke hesitating to kill Vader. It’s nothing as seductive and beguiling as Kylo Ren appealing to her and quite frankly making a good case for her to sell her soul. The temptation he offers is something much more complex than giving in to anger.

I'd say Rey's worse since if the earth didn't split, Kylo would have been done for. Apparently the Force has other plans. Luke hesitated because he was already trained. But Rey... Rey was raw power, and anger.

Michael Barnes wrote: You know it is really weird but I think his shirtless scene is the ONLY time in SW we have ever seen a bare chest...apart from Maul in Clone Wars. Maybe that’s why it is so awkward-feeling.
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The shirtless scene is there because they needed a way to show that they can see each other, and it isn't just a joining of minds

From the Wall Street Journal:

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*Artist’s rendition

Jesus, it's like a Mark E Smith remake of It Follows.

I'm still confused as to why Kylo Ren wears mom jeans.

Hopefully someone will explain this to me in terms of the EU.

Not Sure wrote: I'm still confused as to why Kylo Ren wears mom jeans.

Hopefully someone will explain this to me in terms of the EU.

In addition to the helmet, Kylo also bought a pair of Vader's old pants from a private collector. Vader was a bit taller than him.