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My Surreal Afternoon Spent Explaining Scythe to my Boss.
That won't be a problem. He knows my opinions on games, and likewise I know his. We are the most consistent members of my game night, and we almost never play the same games together. Hell, we were at BGG.Con together for 4 days and never once played a game together (which admittedly is easy with a group of 17). For our game nights, we always try to have a "Chris game" and a "Ken game" and the two have basically no overlap. I've known him for almost 20 years, he would not do that to me, nor I him.Sagrilarus wrote:
cdennett wrote: On paper I should like Scythe, but boy do I not... My Collector's Edition with lots of upgrades now resides with a friend of mine.
Dude, that's your worst-case scenario. You don't want a friend to own Scythe, because it will be set up and ready to go when you get to his house!
Perhaps we're all bitter that it's not the game we thought it was going to be...Sagrilarus wrote: I'm simply amazed at the non-love this game gets here, in spite of me more or less thinking that it's tripe. It's the least-loved of the most-loved games.
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Boss: "Have you heard of Scythe?"
Me: "That thing for harvesting crops?"
Boss: "No, the board game. You said you played board games as a hobby."
Me: "Just Monopoly."
Bullet dodged. I hate talking to non-gamers about games.
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Frohike wrote: So, Scythe is becoming the Mouse Trap experience for the current generation? Seems like a proper fate.
Except we are the bucket. And the game is the plastic boot that forever kicks us
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Thanks everybody! I'll just keep admiring the Scythe box illustration and be done with it.
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It does come off as a massive bait-and-switch though, especially for the average user on TWBG.
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Like.... is it just that there's mechs in it? If they weren't there, would people still go ga-ga over it? From what I understand, yes, the publishers owe the artist a great debt because it created loads of buzz etc etc.
But I often read how amazing it is and always have another look and still don't see it. I mean, it's more nicely rendered than a lot of other box art but...
I'm obviously not the target audience (insert "I know what I like" caveat obviously).
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san il defanso wrote: It does the thing it does really well without being very clear on what that thing actually is.
Uh, can you clue us in on what that thing is? As best I can tell Scythe tries to do frikkin' everything, all of it simultaneously. It's a kitchen-sink design. The only thing I think it's missing is a rondel.
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Sagrilarus wrote:
san il defanso wrote: It does the thing it does really well without being very clear on what that thing actually is.
Uh, can you clue us in on what that thing is? As best I can tell Scythe tries to do frikkin' everything, all of it simultaneously. It's a kitchen-sink design. The only thing I think it's missing is a rondel.
I'm sure I don't know. More what I mean is that all of the mechanical elements work really well with each other. It's a game of tumblers clunking into place, allowing more tumblers to turn. That's tough to do mechanically, but it's in service of a game that is absolutely all over the place. Is it an economic game? A conflict game? A game about victory points? A game about a post-apocolyptic world? It's none of those things very clearly and all of them at the same time. It's well-designed sound and fury, the game design equivalent of a nothingburger.
I say this as someone who would probably not turn down a game. It's runaway success has surprised me though.
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The story behind it, if you GAS, is that this is a post-Great War environment. The mechs aren't fine-tuned war machines, but repurposed agricultural/industrial equipment. And fighting is frowned upon, because everyone's tired of fighting. IIRC, in Stonemeier's design notes he wants fighting allowed, but expensive. He wants to address the problem of 'I sat down at a Civilization game, and a game of Risk broke out.'
It's kind of like a really good Vegas buffet; there's a little bit of everything, and all done okay.
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