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My landlord is a sovereign citizen.

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28 Aug 2024 16:09 #342834 by hotseatgames

dysjunct wrote:
Ryan Bundy (of the Bundy family of ranchers that had the standoff vs. the government a few years ago) filed a bunch of sovcit documents in his case that are pretty hilarious:

www.opb.org/pdf/bundy_sovereign_citizen_...2u_1527709142280.pdf


I read part of it... until I could take no more. What a fucking idiot.
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14 Sep 2024 00:01 #342907 by Cranberries
My great uncle: www.eenews.net/articles/mr-sagebrush-reb...-seize-federal-land/

My niece is married to the adopted son of Finicum, who committed suicide by FBI at the end of the Bundy standoff: www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2018/01...AP%202018/AP%202018/
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18 Sep 2024 11:45 #342929 by Virabhadra
99% of the time I hear about "sovereign citizens" it's someone trying to get out of a DUI.

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25 Sep 2024 11:33 - 25 Sep 2024 11:46 #342946 by dysjunct

Gary Sax wrote: Exactly. It's super comforting to think that the meaning of rules isn't a complex blend of mutual expectations, interpretation of the written rule, interest in enforcement, etc. I'm guessing that's a big part of the appeal.


I have a theory that fascination with rules systems (broadly interpreted) drives a lot of stereotypical geek behavior. Complex board games and RPGs, of course, but also obsessions with fictional worlds like Star Wars -- lists of facts within a structured and created setting are a system too.

This doesn't typically bleed into real-world history, which is too messy and convoluted to be easily reducible to discrete statements. It does, however, cross into politics and economics. Libertarianism is overrepresented among geeks, compared to the general popularion, and it starts from a few simple principles (non-aggression principle) and quickly spins out into an all-encompassing explanatory and moral system.

There's a controversial theory of neurology which posits that brains fall onto a spectrum of systemizing vs. empathizing. Systemizing brains, at the extreme end, tend to have autistic traits. They also tend to be more selfish, which would explain why libertarianism is more popular within geekdom than Marxism, despite both being similar from a rules-system point of view. Male brains tend to be more on the systemizing side of the spectrum, which would explain why men are overrepresented in geek circles compared to women, and also why men are more likely to have austism spectrum disorders than women.

When geeks try to reduce human relationships to simple rules, you get things like the Five Geek Social Fallacies.

And to bring it full circle, SovCit theories are the attempt to reduce law to a simplistic rules system. Extrapolations to originalism are left as an exercise for the reader.
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22 Oct 2024 11:08 #343039 by SuperflyPete
Wait for the tax lien to hit and then buy the tax certificate. When he invariably refuses to pay then you will be the legal owner and you get a free house.

Google "how to buy lien tax certificate"
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22 Oct 2024 15:52 #343040 by ChristopherMD
I'm going to look into that and keep an eye out.

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