ubarose wrote:
I agree. Also, the last straw is often something that isn't public. It's something that happens face to face or via e-mail. Like I once had some nut job spit on me in protest to F:AT.[/quote]
Holy crap, ubarose! That really pisses me off. It goes to show there are a lot of weirdos out there.
Do you want us to round up the posse and take him out for you?
I demand that the spitter be identified and publically called out for being a fucking subhuman jerk. It's one thing to spit on somebody. It's another to spit on a lady. And it's a whole other thing to spit on somebody who is a lady over FUCKING INTERNET BOARD GAME SITES. I swear, I hear shit like that it makes me want to burn all my games in a fire for fear of being somehow mistakenly associated with the kinds of losers that would be willing to do that over FUCKING INTERNET BOARD GAME SITES.
Post the cocksmokers name that spit on you, ubarose. The guy's a maggot. First, you don't ever do anything like that to a girl. Second, he's a maggot for taking something that really is pretty trivial to an extreme like that. I guarantee he's a BGG user or else he wouldn't know anything about the euro/AT debate.
Why am I so surprised that a board gamer would act like that? I mean, if you look at all the rude, arrogant, elitist, socially unaware jackasses that unfortunately infest certain areas of the hobby it shouldn't be any surprise that some fucking prick would stoop to spitting at a woman over a board game website. I've seen more rude and embarassing behavior from gamers than pretty much any subset of human beings I've ever witnessed. This is a hobby that sadly attracts some of the most socially malfeasant people in the world and it's also one which attracts people who cling to it as a way to find their identity and who they are in their lives so when something challenges that, or someone has a dissenting opinion about something it turns into this fucked up personal thing. That whole thing with the "shilling" that Melissa Whoeversheis and Valerie Putnam is part of that too. Rick Thornquist was part of that too. Fucking pathetic. I'm sure "The Spitter" felt that Uba was part of a larger challenge to the idioitic ideological hegemony that existed in the hobby before the AT thing really broke out and he probably held her responsible for shattering this fragile worldview he had where boardgaming was this happy-go-lucky land of delight and sophistication where he could realize all of his failed goals in life vicariously by moving some little fucking tokens around a god damned printed piece cardboard.
This isn't just about Uba. This is about how some people have made this hobby and the boardgaming community into this disgusting SUPER SERIOUS "thing" that it never should have been in the first place...and it all started when the little boardgamers started getting their feelings hurt on the internet because they invested all their social life into it.
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responsible for shattering this fragile worldview he had where boardgaming was this happy-go-lucky land of delight and sophistication where he could realize all of his failed goals in life vicariously by moving some little fucking tokens around a god damned printed piece cardboard.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself. How about those dirtbags that reinforce every negative stereotype about our hobby? Won't ever see a girl naked IRL so might as well spit on one.
I've seen A LOT of shoddy treatment of women by gamers...there used to be this guy that came into the store (he claimed he was "in the film business"- he was a theater usher) with his wife...he'd come sashaying through the door bellowing "anybody want to play SHADOWS OVER CAMELOT?" while his wife literally struggled to get through the door (which he didn't hold open for her) with HIS gigantic tub full of games. Then there was the married couple that came in and the man constantly yelled at his wife for being dumb, making snarky comments all night during gaming about how stupid his wife was. Then there was the fact that any time a girl was in the store it was like a fucking G-rated floorshow for lonely middle aged men playing their little fucking board games instead of experiencing life and actual human relationships. And don't get me started on this implicit belief that women somehow can't handle games beyond LOST CITIES.
Yeah, these people that reinforce the negative gamer stereotypes need to have their feelings hurt, they need to be called out for being assholes and jerks...there are so many cool people and great folks in the hobby it _sucks_ that WE are associated with THEM.
A few years (okay more than a few) ago, I was at a gaming convention and I remember watching this guy buying magic cards and his wife/girlfriend sitting there and diligently cataloging and putting them away neatly for him. I don't remember if I saw her carrying the box too. That was the same con where I entered the Magic Tournament and getting beat in two turns by this smug asshole. I'm thinking...wow that was fun.
I can barely wrap my head around someone above the age of 5 spitting on someone else, let alone over what are basically toys. Apparently, some use the fact they still play with toys to never grow up and be shitheads.
Michael is definitely right. These people need to be "called on the carpet" and reprimanded in a manner worthy of a misbehaving child.