GW and FFG Breaking Up?

Yeah...Talisman. Love it, but eventually unloaded it because I know a bunch of people with it. I suppose with so many copies and expansions out there I've taken it for granted.

I'm looking at the base game, highlands, reaper, and sacred pool. Those four only if I get back in.

If I do this, I need to make the call soon. I don't feel this FFG-GW split has really gotten out there. Though a few folks on the WHQ:CG FFG forum have picked up on it.

On the other hand...maybe with the flood of games out on the market now...no one will care if these go away. Doubtful though.

I think there's plenty of copies of Talisman out there it wouldn't be too hard to pick up second hand, unless there's some of the small box expansions that didn't get out there much.

If and when this breaks, a lot of stuff has enough copies floating around out there that picking it up won't be that much of a problem. But for stuff that's scarce now, like some of the PoD expansions and Horned Rat...yeah that stuff is gonna get stupid expensive. Forbidden Stars hasn't been around that long, so hard to tell on that one.

A quick peak at the FFG forum revealed this (prophetic?) post:

community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/2...e-game/#entry2333148

Yeah the Conquest fans seem to have been onto this for a while. I've actually wanted to try Conquest since it came out, but never had anyone lined up to play with.

Msample wrote: If and when this breaks, a lot of stuff has enough copies floating around out there that picking it up won't be that much of a problem. But for stuff that's scarce now, like some of the PoD expansions and Horned Rat...yeah that stuff is gonna get stupid expensive. Forbidden Stars hasn't been around that long, so hard to tell on that one.

A quick peak at the FFG forum revealed this (prophetic?) post:

community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/2...e-game/#entry2333148

Gears of War had tons of copies floating around. It was $25 in one of those FFG holiday sales. 10-12 months later it's rocketed up in value. This stuff can disappear in the blink of an eye.

I think those WHQ:CG PODs may shoot up the most. Only because I believe they've just been released and are now discontinued. The SH:DA expansions have had a few years of print runs. Still, I guess POD print runs are smaller than the usual.

People can spend their money on whatever they want, but I'm genuinely surprised at the number here who will buy board games as investments or out of fear they won't be reprinted.

I think it's more FOMO here than speculation. Still there will always be speculators in any given hobby. I read an article a couple years ago about a pair of guys who would buy LEGO sets when they went on clearance, rented a climate-controlled storage unit, and would wait for the collector's value to go up and sell them off.

I'm not so sure it's looking for investments, but not wanting to pay higher dollar down the road.

I like SH:DA quite a bit, but never picked up all the expansions. Now that it looks like production has seized I think I'd rather try to get them now at MSRP rather than later for some much larger amount.

I was able to find the two. Supposedly, my LGS was able to order them from their distributor. Guess they had a few in the warehouse or something. And no, I didn't order any extra copies to shill later.

Its not an investment, there are games that have been on my radar ( Forbidden Stars, WH:ACG that I both played and liked ) for awhile but given until recently the prospect of easy availability, no rush to buy them.

One of my gaming buddies for a long time did flip the big Lego sets.

I wonder what Chaos Marauders will go for a year from now....$20?

Retirement Plan: Cornering the market with a storage unit full of Chaos Marauders.

It's definitely mostly FOMO, I think. That's why I'm getting what I want now. Plus it is kind of fun to have this "sky is falling" outlook on it. Most GW/FFG games have been around long enough for there to be PLENTY of copies to go around. Chaos in the Old World came out seven years ago and has been through multiple printings. Retailers and distributors will dry up, but that game will not be scarce in the next 10 years.

The POD stuff is a crap shoot. The thing about all of that is that it is all easy to duplicate/proxy. I think we'll see some of it go up in value, but not as much as some of the more optimistic speculators would have you believe with their pricing. You're still talking about little packs of 20 cards or whatever. These will never be $100 items.

Some of the expansions will go up. Horned Rat I've been seeing valued around $50-$60 already. If word gets out that it is gone for good, that might go up into the $75-$80 range. The Relic expansions were likely not produced on huge scales, so those could increase. But that game wasn't very popular, so there's that. The Talisman stuff...I dunno. If GW does their own, the FFG stuff I would expect would actually go DOWN in value unless they fumble it. Which they wouldn't.

Conquest, Invasion, Chaos Marauders, Diskwars...all will remain at the same levels of value and/or decline steadily as they leave currency.

What I think WILL likely be big bucks (meaning ($100-$200) in the next ten years is Fury of Dracula. That hasn't been out a year and if (big if) FFG can no longer produce it, that means there is WAY less of it out there than the other stuff. But there again, if GW does their own version that could tank the value of this one. Forbidden Stars I can see going over $100, but that kind of depends on a couple of things. I don't get a sense that the game was all that successful or particularly beloved, so that could impact it. But it is a big 40k-set StarCraft game. So that could be valuable in the future.

There isn't big money here in any of it, really. So my advisement is to buy ONLY out of FOMO, not to turn a profit.

With all of that said, what am I supposed to do with this warehouse full of Horus Heresy?

I'm just happy now because I was able to figure out what "FOMO" means at only the third time used in this thread. Not bad as far as netcronyms go.

Mad Dog wrote: People can spend their money on whatever they want, but I'm genuinely surprised at the number here who will buy board games as investments or out of fear they won't be reprinted.

I would never buy a boardgame as an investment. In fact if I come across things in game stores that I know are OOP or rare and I already have them (or don't have any interest) I will leave them on the shelf. I know I could easily flip them or trade them, but I want someone who is hunting for them to come across what they're looking for and be ecstatic. For example, there was a store I once went into that had a Warrior Knights: Crown and Glory Expansion for sale when it was OOP and roughly $60 online. I just let it sit there because I had recently acquired it. I went back to the store a few months later and it was gone. Hopefully someone that was really dying to get their hands on it, was able to.

The stuff I'm picking up is for games I already own and have always intended on buying. I was always going to get these things, but this is providing the needed nudge.